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22 May 2025 13:57:15
VP has asked the club to sign Yuri Alberto as priority.
03 May 2025 18:55:22
Samuel Lino - LB/LW from Atletico Madrid linked. Deal will include Fabio Silva going the other way.
1.) 04 May 2025 15:35:54
Very exciting times to be a Wolves fan. Samuel Lino looks like the perfect replacement for RAN, maybe a hint that Fosun are looking to replace him? Plus the fact that Feyenoord want to keep Hugo Bueno, Lino looks like the perfect man to step up and fill that role. He looks like he will fit perfectly into VPs system, so I am buzzing with this rumour. Hopefully the Fabio Silva swap deal can allow us to get him for a bit cheaper.
20 Feb 2025 22:10:35
Rumour on X is that Man Utd will trigger the £62.5m release fee for Cunha this summer. But let's not forget, just because a club agrees to pay the release fee, the player himself can reject the move.
1.) 21 Feb 2025 06:40:43
Wandering, I think wherever we are playing next season, he will be gone.
The best we can hope for, is there is a bidding war and we can leverage as much as we can from his transfer. Hopefully help build a decent transfer war chest for us to invest wisely (Fosun allowing).
2.) 21 Feb 2025 07:46:28
Same old record… great player sold for big bucks only for the money to disappear and for Fosun to later allow last minute panic buying of unknown players with no prem experience!
3.) 21 Feb 2025 07:53:04
I think he'll end up at Liverpool or abroad. My reasoning being, Man City have Marmoush, Haaland, Doku, Silva, Foden so don't need him. Arsenal have Saka, Trossard and Martinelli and will most likely pursue Sesko oe Sesko. Chelsea have ruined Pedro Neto and this will not have gone unnoticed by Cunha. Man Utd and Spurs cannot offer European football.
Liverpool may need to replace Jota and Salah and would seem the most obvious destination.
4.) 21 Feb 2025 08:27:11
Man u do not have the money to buy Cunha they need to sell to buy. I think a deal has been done with Arsenal and the money will cover the signings we made in the last transfer window, and Wolves have changed their accounting end of year to June from May so they avoid PSR issues. Just my opinion.
5.) 21 Feb 2025 10:17:09
Intriguing move by Wolves to push the accounting year-end to 30th June. Cunha's buyout clause is disappointingly low. I think several clubs will want to meet it. It would be in Cunha's interests if he is sold as cheaply as possible, so that he could screw his new club for as much salary as possible. If I was in charge I would have set the buyout clause at £100mil but Cunha would't have signed the contract then, for the foregoing reasons!
6.) 21 Feb 2025 19:56:45
He's not interested in joining Man Utd or Spurs apparently.
7.) 22 Feb 2025 02:40:14
Baza
I had noted that fact but didn't want to mention it as I sadly tend to agree with you and thus I would once again risk being "Thefutureis (very)bleak"
Clearly we will know the outcome of 23-24 in the next few weeks - some clubs have already reported.
But as we know the club passed PSR in 23-24 we can say that we must have broken even at worst.
Profits, (mainly losses), therefore for the last 3 years are
2021-22 -£43m
2022 -23 -£64m
2023-24 must be circa profit of £2m so that we get to a 3 year loss of no more than £105m.
How did we achieve that when pre player sales the previous year we lost well over £100m.
Well firstly we didn't sack a manager that year so perhaps our pre player sales losses did not increase from the previous year and may even have declined slightly
Secondly we sold a bucket load of talent - headlined of course by Neves, but it also included Nunes, Collins, Coady, and Jimenez etc etc.
Profits from these sales were probably in the region of £100m on their own.
However if we have moved our year end date to beyond the opening of the next transfer window we must have done it for a reason.
Perhaps we expected to sell a player in Jan, but didn't because we would be relegated if we sell another of our saleable players, (and to make matters worse actually signed 3 new players increasing both wages and amorts), then we would still need to sell at least one before the year end. This was not possible before as the market doesn't reopen until June, hence the need to move the date to the end of June.
Lets look at the numbers
Over the 3 years to 2024 -25 we need to have losses of less than £105m.
That means that
-£64m + £2m + 2024-25 loss must be below £105m, ie 2024 -25 loss must not exceed £43m.
Is it possible therefore that we are worried that this is not looking likely at the moment
A very scary statement given that we sold Kilman, Podence, Neto amongst others this year surely generating profits of over £100m.
Thus does this say that, including the pay off for GON our pre player losses have increased to more than £143m?
If that is the case not only are our accounts totally out of control but we would almost certainly need to sell further players at a profit of circa £80m in 2025-26 which is probably impossible given what will be left with after the sale (s) made in June 20025.
Surely things can't be this bleak but as Baza says what other explanation is there for doing this?
8.) 22 Feb 2025 07:08:21
It is the Premier League who have moved the deadline to 30th June, not the club.
9.) 22 Feb 2025 09:10:14
Wandering are you sure?
If so why?
Are you saying it is just Wolves the Premier league has forced to do this or is it all clubs?
As far as I can tell from Companies House Liverpool and Arsenal for example still have 31.5 as their year end?
Eds any info on this matter?
{Ed001's Note - I think he is getting mixed up between the dates of accounts being released and PRS calculations being done.}
10.) 22 Feb 2025 09:47:54
Ed - do you know therefore if clubs that report at the end of May 2025 can include transactions done at the start of June 2025 in the 2025 PSR calculations.
If the answer to the q is yes then why have Wolves moved the date?
If the answer is no - which seems more consistent with accounting concepts - it does suggest does it not that perhaps Wolves do have PSR issues?
Regardless though all in all I tend to agree with Wandering that it would be sensible for all clubs to align the PSR date with their Financial year end.
{Ed001's Note - the reported accounts are separate, so it makes no real difference. It is just sensible and easier to produce the full accounts at the same time as you are producing the PSR documentation for the Premier League.}
11.) 22 Feb 2025 10:15:23
Tks
So it may be a totally innocent piece of admin, simply doing as you say "making it simpler and easier to tie up the 2 reporting requirements"
Guess I am so sceptical I am seeing "issues" where none may exist.
Shame the club hasn't put out a statement explaining what it is doing and why - assuming they haven't and I haven't just missed it.
{Ed001's Note - you could well be right, but as they are changing the way it is calculated, it seems more likely to be just about making it easier to deal with. The 85% threshold has held a lot of clubs back from transfer business though, so who knows until the accounts are released? It is all guesswork until then, as no one knows what terms finance has been taken out on or payment terms of players coming in and leaving.}
14 Feb 2025 09:17:49
Liam Keen reporting that Nelson Semedo will most likely leave the club in the summer as his wages are deemed too high.
Who replaces him? Is Pedro Lima ready to step up? Is Doc up to the job?
1.) 14 Feb 2025 13:01:28
His wages, (£80k pw), have always been too high as he is not a superstar, (nor is/was he worth the £30m we paid for him!).
BUT
He, at 31, so with perhaps 3 or 4 years at the top level left, is a rock solid mid-table Premier league right (wing) back.
To buy one of those this summer, (assuming no one believes Doc, (33 years old and not as obviously fit), is the answer anymore and Lima may or may not be ready), we would surely be looking at significantly more than the £12.5m we would be paying Semedo over a say 3 year extension - unless of course he is asking for an increase in his current wage?.
If he resigns for us or signs with another club there will be no transfer fee paid to his former club - i.e. us!
It is this feature alone that means he can attract wages far in excess of his ability from over clubs.
Consequently we - who are surely in the driving seat - can pay him say the £12.5m over 3 years or pay at least £12.5m to another club for his replacement, (who may or may not be up to the job), and then pay that replacement say a conservative £60k pw or just under £9.5m on top!
It therefore would appear to be a no brainer to resign Semedo even for the "outrageous" £80k pw he is currently on both from a football and financial point of view.
I hope Jeff agrees.
2.) 14 Feb 2025 14:42:46
There are others who are on similar wages who could go so we free up money to better quality.
Hwang £70k pw
Sarabia £90k pw
Dawson £45k pw
Guedes £90k pw
All likely to leave in the summer.
Add to this Cunha.
So I think Liam Keen is speculating at this stage.
3.) 14 Feb 2025 14:43:14
I would let Semedo go he is a very good defender but does not give us much going forward. I think the manger wants a more attacking player in this position and Lima could fit the bill but we need to try him out to see how good he is or not.
4.) 14 Feb 2025 14:44:53
Craig Dawson removed from the 25 man squad for the remainder of the season.
5.) 14 Feb 2025 15:53:35
Guedes is likely to stay he is in Vitors plans and has settled now.
6.) 15 Feb 2025 08:43:07
Absolutely TFIG!
I think some folk don't take those figures into account.
Just as you say if Samedo (a known quantity) goes, we would be in for saving only half or a bit less of his wages if we buy in a replacement plus in top a significant amount for buying a replacement. Unless of course Lima really is ready to step up to that full time fir the season.
That approach of course can't go on forever as players get too old, or are doubtful in the job. Eg where some. might say guides or sarabia, and perhaps Hwang too.
.our £35m boy wonder is another matter entirely of course ?
7.) 15 Feb 2025 11:20:29
Indeed Rollo but as you say Wolves hopefully already have Semedo's eventual replacement in Lima.
By resigning Semedo for free we can, perhaps in 6-12 months time, buy Lima's replacement for a modest fee, (the fee you pay for a youngster not yet ready rather than the multi million pound fee you need to pay for a rock solid mid table prem league player).
Then in 18-24 months time as Semedo is edged out of the side by Lima we are still "covered" with Lima's replacement bedded in and presumably measured/tested to ensure they will be ready if and when Lima in turn needs replacing.
Planning in advance not only saves money but improves the team/squad.
All it requires is good management!
Shame we have Jeff!
8.) 16 Feb 2025 19:55:42
TFIOG are you talking about planning a competitive team for the future in an organised way? Are you some sort of trouble maker? ?
9.) 17 Feb 2025 08:46:14
Fifth column near the turnstiles methinks. Far too radical all the thought of forward planning is giving me the vapours and Jeff will be panic stricken.
10.) 28 Feb 2025 18:39:09
Guedes will be gone if he is not injured.
02 Feb 2025 23:08:19
Marshall Munetsi. Zimbabwe Midfielder reported by John Percy.
1.) 03 Feb 2025 10:25:48
Hard to tell from highlight reels but he looks like a big unit who loves a tackle and a block and is good in the air. Maybe offers more physicality to our midfield and a willingness to get from box to box. I guess only time will tell but if nothing else he doesn't look as if he's one to shy away from a challenge
2.) 03 Feb 2025 10:57:22
Just what we need PaghamWolf! VP did say he wanted to make us more a physical team. Started to show against Villa. Let’s see more! UTW ?
3.) 03 Feb 2025 11:49:52
Nasser Djiga deal nearing completion too.
4.) 03 Feb 2025 12:09:13
Watching the highlights reel for Djiga, he looks big, strong in the tackle and has pace. Seems to be a no nonsense type of player.
5.) 03 Feb 2025 12:16:01
Djiga medical booked for later, he's flying to the UK apparently according to Liam Keen. 12 million Euros, and 18m agreed for Munetsi in principle.
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19 May 2025 16:39:19
When Cunha plays against us next season, we should give him the Nunes treatment. I love him as a player but the way he's acted to force a move is nothing short of disgraceful.
The funny thing is, although Man Utd and Cunha have agreed terms, Man Utd haven't even approached Wolves. But Sky saying that won't be a problem because Man Utd will pay the release fee.
If I was Shi, I'd say all the money upfront or no deal.
1.) 19 May 2025 17:12:03
All the money up front? Absolutely. That’s how we should be with all the so called big clubs who think they can take our best players. They pay our price and pay up front. No fannying about with part exchanges (unless on our terms) and payment on our terms not theirs.
Don’t worry though, I’ve got every faith in Jeff. ?
2.) 19 May 2025 18:33:31
What's he done to force the deal exactly?! Has he refused to play, has he pubically said he wants out? No he has not, sorry but if you want to be annoyed about the deal then you should be annoyed with the club that offered him a release fee so foolishly small that they may have well have just sold him instead of doing the contract cause we would have got more in Jan! Only Wolves under Fosun would come out celebrating a new contract which in fact weakened their position more than not even giving him a new contract! More top money management from Jeff I'm afraid! ?
3.) 19 May 2025 18:38:44
I've got no issue with Cunha leaving. But there is a way to handle yourself and negotiating with the club when they have not even made contact with the selling club seems very backhanded and sneaky.
Had he not have told everyone how Wolves as a club and the fan base saves him when he was depressed and on the verge of quitting football, it wouldn't be so bad. But the fact is, he has shown himself to me a money grabbing mercenary. The sooner we're shot of him the better.
4.) 19 May 2025 21:07:43
Apparently the release clause allows the fee to be paid in 3 annual payments, the initial payment at the time of the transfer.
All the clauses and the fee would have been agreed with Cunha's agent. I think we were held over a barrel here. If we didn't agree, Cunha would go while we were in the relegation zone. We could only keep him on his terms.
5.) 20 May 2025 06:12:12
As I said, I've no problem with him moving but he's agreed to move to Man Utd even though they haven't actually approached Wolves to discuss the fee. Also, Cunha wants the move before the end of the season. He could have kept quiet but no, he went on about how much he loved the club and the fans, then slapped us in the face at the very 1st opportunity.
If you think that's morally right, then fine. But I don't. As I said, I don't begrudge him the move, but he could have acted in a more respectful way to our club.
6.) 20 May 2025 06:15:37
Ah, that's how much he thought of us then. Look there's no guarantee that he'll perform at another club especially one where the players ego's are significantly higher than their ability. When he first came to us he wasn't that great was he? He's pretty much given a free role at Wolves and he does drift in and out of matches as we've seen recently. There's no arguing that he can be brilliant on his day and pretty much saved us from certain relegation under GON, but let's face it we weren't playing as a unit/team then. VP has reinstated the pack mentality which Nuno gave us and I thought we actually played better when he was suspended albeit the team's we played were fairly poor. As I've said on numerous occasions there's always another 'Cuhna' out there waiting to be discovered. I have every faith in VP with his experience and worldwide travels that he'll bring in quality players that perhaps none of us have heard of. I'd certainly never heard of Aga, or Munetsi before they signed and both have become great aquasitions.
7.) 20 May 2025 08:58:39
I agree with most of the above comments on Cunha, disappointed that he is leaving but more disappointing is the way things have been handled by all concerned. Cunha would have been better to keep quiet, play well and leave everything behind the scenes, can’t really understand why he is so desperate to play for Man U at this time, club is a shambles. Our management to apply such a low release clause is terrible business, £80-£85m is more reasonable, all other clubs seem open to offers from anyone for their players causing prices to increase, not us unfortunately, all done as cheap and quickly as possible, madness. Interesting to see if he is selected tonight.
8.) 20 May 2025 09:15:47
Absolutely Banksy, my very thoughts except I actually think the valuation is right but a 'auction' may have brought in more, who would pay extra though?
Given all the reports around him now I'd rest him from the current team they don't the distraction, or for him to try and 'grandstand' in his last days with us, we ay wolves not cunha.
9.) 20 May 2025 09:33:26
So it seems Man U have their own transfer window, opens and closes at their will!
10.) 20 May 2025 10:05:54
Wolvo1963
You can agree to sign players at anytime but it doesn't officially go though untill the window opens.
11.) 20 May 2025 10:06:47
Some interesting points gents, some fair some not so. For exampl, I keep hearing about how Cunhas orchestrated this move but how exactly?! Please show me a single quote attributed to him that shows that HE is the one desperate to leave ASAP, or that HE is the one releasing these stories in the press cause so far there's not seen a single thing from him on this. In fact here's a question, if he's so entirely set on one club anyway then why is it in HIS interest to release the story? Cause the way I see it the ONLY parties than benefit from releasing the story are the club or his agent by generating more interest?
As for Cunha having us over a barrel I'm not really seeing how to be honest Tim. We were well within our rights to do exactly what almost every single club in this league does and say that we aren't selling our best players in the Jan window. He had over two years left on his cont
12.) 20 May 2025 10:28:05
Sorry that sent early (this site seems VERY glitchy these days)
The truth is though Tim we weren't over a barrel, we could have just done what EVERY other Prem club does and simply said we aren't selling our best players in the Jan window as its not good business?! Then we could have sold him at the end of the season with the two years left on his contract. I suspect we would have comfortably got the £62.5m in fact all we needed was a bidding war and we would have likely got even more! Seriously that really is a poor fee, we signed him for £43.5m so in real terms we are making less than £20m on one of the most technically gifted players this club has had, is that good business then?!
Sorry but the obvious answer is usually the right answer and the obvious answer here is that Jeff gave him a low release fee because the club in fact WANTED to sell him, just like they've WANTED to sell every other big name/quality player that we have had. Because if you operate in the Prem and give a striker a below market value release fee all it does do is guarantee that they will be sold, which is exactly what seems to have happened here?! For me the release fee was just a simple way for Jeff to get out of jail for yet again selling the family silver for pence on the pound. In fairness to him it seems to have worked doesn't it, cause here people are blaming Cunha when yet again it's Jeff selling off our progression/future?! Fair play Jeff, for you that's a very savvy slight of hand! ?
13.) 20 May 2025 10:49:29
Jimmy, isn’t that called tapping up a player and if so against the rules is my point!
14.) 20 May 2025 11:26:26
Er, bully, didn't cunha put some tweets or whatever out, later retracted admittedly, indicating his departure from us? Then prompting his show of love to the south bank. He may of not said anything directly but the feelings were implied.
Honestly I think he stayed when he could of left, marred by his ban, but he did say he would stay until our safety was ensured, and credit to him for that, but we're safe and the circus around him now should not detract from the 2 games left. Let him have his swan song cameo v brentford, but we must forget him now and move on.
15.) 20 May 2025 11:35:39
I’m in agreement with WS regarding Man U paying for Cunha in instalments which now seems apparent. If Cunha is so in demand why can’t Wolves insist on cash up front or am I missing something? Just like the way we allowed Liverpool to get Jota way below his true market value.
16.) 20 May 2025 11:57:53
No Abbey, he's never done anything on socials to disrespect the club. He did an interview and that interviewer basically framed the piece as 'Next stop a successful club' and he contacted the journo saying that it was a complete misrepresentation of what he said! Weather it was or not is somewhat irrelevant (as we'll never know) the point is that he seems to have gone out of his way previously to try and avoid/explain any disrespect to the club! The ONLY reason this has become a soap opera is because of the release fee, the realeade that the club chose to give him!
17.) 20 May 2025 13:34:21
Fair comment bully's, I'm not, and don't follow that stuff so only read the journos interpretation. I got the impression he wanted away but thanked the club for giving him the belief. Either way I don't think the attention he'll get is worth him playing a full part now, let him enjoy the mol v brentford, something raul never got.
18.) 20 May 2025 13:44:42
BullysBoy, I think you're being a bit harsh on Jeff regarding the imminent sale of Cunha.
If he didn't sign a new contract, would teams that offered much more than the £50m for a player who had 2 years left on his contract, knowing that he was likely to leave at the end of the season?
Cunha has signed a new contract in the knowledge that he was going but has given us a guaranteed £62.5m
It's swings and roundabouts. He either didn't sign a new contract so he becomes unsettled when a club bids for him but doesn't want to pay tge going rate for a player with 2 years left on his contract, thereby making the player unhappy who in turns drives his value down by not performing, or get a guaranteed fee for a player who was set on leaving anyway.
19.) 20 May 2025 14:30:55
BB v impressed that you are still battling.
Sadly the board is seemingly now either completely in thrall to Jeff or cleverly manipulated by a "baggie fan" or two having a jolly good laugh at us.
We obviously don't know if Cunha, (or Neves, Neto, Kilman, Collins, Jota, MGW etc etc ), agitated for a move or indeed if next season one or more of RAN, (if still here), Andre, Gomes or Emmanuel will be responsible for their sale by the club.
You can be sure however that when one or more of them leave they will be vilified on here and we will be told that they were never any good and the club will be better off without them.
But we do know 2 things: Jeff told the fans, (and thus the players), that Wolves were not a club that was going to be competing for titles/cups, (Unlike obviously the big 6 - [although 2 of them are below us this season, will they be next though especially if one of them has our best player to carry them forwards], Newcastle, Villa or Forest chasing champions league football, Brighton, Brentford, Fulham and Bournemouth chasing Europa, Palace who won a cup this week and West Ham who won a European Trophy in last couple of years. Indeed it appears that Jeff thinks we are competing in a small league with the 3 teams promoted from the championship and Everton, (although they have peskily just moved to a brand new stadium indicating scarily ambitious aims?).
Secondly we know that Wolves are in deep financial trouble - they made over £200m less than that mega club Brentford before player sales over the last 3 years - and therefore to avoid PSR penalties have to make hugely profitable player sales on a regular basis, (see players sold over the last few years - all those ones we don't know if they agitated for a move or not). There are only a handful of players in the squad who can be sold to make those huge profits and Cunha is probably top of the list.
So Cunha may be a horrible, useless footballer who demanded a move OR Jeff had to sell someone for a large fee. Cunha was the obvious one to sell so Jeff told him he was not wanted at a club that had no ambition but as a brilliant footballer he could get a massive increase in his salary and move to a team that believes it should be challenging for everything. However Cunha is a brilliant footballer who holds the entire team together and Jeff doesn't want to be castigated for selling him so he runs a campaign to destroy Cunha's reputation - completely successfully it seems!
I am sure most of you are dedicated Wolves fans but what I can't understand is why you aren't all raging with fury at how Jeff has and continues to destroy (ed) the club.
Taking us from the edge of the Champions League to, as seen earlier this season, the edge of the Championship. From a financially stable club to one that, as stated, is so financially strapped it has to sell its best players every year.
I don't want the club to lose matches and be relegated but Jeff's actions make/have made this more likely so why are you all so happy?
20.) 20 May 2025 15:07:51
Your right TFIOG. Fans are either pro Shi or Anti Shi.
Personally, I think he tried his best with Cunha and got a decent deal for us. The facts are that Cunha was 100% leaving this summer. He could have chosen to not sign a new contract and we sold him for a lower price as we had no real control of the incoming bids or how this would affect Cunha, or we could convince him to sign what is in effect a short term extension but with a guarantee of a minimal fee I our favour.
21.) 20 May 2025 15:21:02
Bully, we're obviously seeing this from differing perspectives.
Cunha wanted to go in January. The contract, with a low release fee and agreed instalments was the only thing that stopped him effectively downing tools and orchestrating a move as Plug did to get hisnmmove to City. We were in a relegation fight and needed our best player.
This, I believe is how we arrived where we are. Cunha showing his true colours, moving at the soonest possible moment (or earlier if he had his way).
I can't believe that Jeff would have orchestrated this. It certainly wasn't in his best interest, the only way could be MC demanded a move or a low release figure. If Jeff wasn't over a barrel he could have let MC play on and instigate a bidding war in the summer. No possible motive for Jeff to end up here unless forced.
Let's hope this sorry affair ends soon and we can move on and sign some players
22.) 20 May 2025 16:17:54
Tim - That is certainly the scenario Jeff wants us to believe but remember Jeff has to sell our best players pretty much every year! We lose tens of millions, (far more than other clubs!), a year - largely because Jeff is grossly incompetent so Cunha had to go!
We don't know if he wanted to go. Did Neves or the others and if they did why did they all want to go? (see post above!)
If Jeff was competent we could easily have afforded to keep the ones we wanted to do and thus with a front line of Cunha, Jota and Neto and with Neves etc also available we would surely be playing Champions League football most years and rolling in the money!
Wandering I accept it is an opinion on what he is worth and what bids we would have received if we sold him on the open market - tragic that due to Jeff's incompetence, (not sure how anyone given this fact can be pro Shi), that we have to sell him but we do.
However as a player in his prime who has performed as he has over the last 18 months, he pretty much carried our team this year, I strongly suspect bids would have opened somewhere over £100m.
He is one of the top handful of players in the league and in his prime, (unlike Salah, Van Dyke or De Bruyne for example), and they very very rarely come to the market.
23.) 20 May 2025 17:08:49
Or we could have had a similar situation like Adama Traore when he refused to sign a new contract and walked away for free.
24.) 20 May 2025 17:36:22
Surely even Jeff isn't that incompetent? We treated Adama appalling, (he was being paid a fraction of the salary Fabio was but was being tasked with, (and succeeding), carrying the team after Raul's injury. He apparently asked for this to be recognised and we obviously said no?!
We, having completely lost any sort of relationship with him, then incredibly stupidly gave Barcelona a free option to look him over.
I have a very low opinion of Jeff but not even he could get it so wrong again.
Besides 2 more years of Cunha, even if you think he would simply sit there and run his contract down and leave on a free, might well be worth £62.5m.
With him in the side we would finish far higher in the league/stay in the league, show our existing squad and prospective signees we are a serious club etc etc etc.
Quite possibly worth a damn site more than £62.5m but Wolves sadly, due to Jeff, don't have the pockets to take long term sensible decisions but are living hand to mouth.
Worrying though that you think Wolves sign such horrible people that they all shaft the club. Why do you think Wolves have such a bad relationship with their employees that they all want to leave?
25.) 20 May 2025 18:34:54
Adama was on £48k a week. The contract offer of £100k a week was on the table for 3 seasons, so to say he was on a fraction of what Fabio was on is simply untrue. He point blank refused to sign the contract and was basically holding the club to ransom by demanding £150k per week which Shi, quite rightly refused to pay him.
26.) 20 May 2025 18:38:15
But Wolves called his bluff and he ended up signing for Fulham for a paltry £65k per week. Mind you he was paid £6m signing on fee so this equates to a weekly wage of £125k.
27.) 20 May 2025 19:18:46
The other thing is this: football is ever evolving. Yes, we've let some good players go. Without selling Kilman, we wouldn't have Agbadou. Without selling Neto, we wouldn't have Rodrigo Gomes, without moving on Jimenez and Adama, we wouldn't have JSL and Cunha. Without moving on Neves and Moutinho, we'd have no Andre and Joao.
It's all guesswork for now but here's a scenario for you: People were disappointed that Jota left for Liverpool for £45m. In the last 2 seasons, his replacement (bought for £43m) has outperformed Jota in goals to games ratio, more assists etc. He has also been available for a lot more games due to his superior injury record. So if you look at the cold hard facts and stats, Cunha is an improvement as he stats are better in a lower performing team. What's to say whoever replaces Cunha (hopefully Alberto AND Amoura) won't improve our forward line much the same as Cunha did?
28.) 20 May 2025 19:38:22
I'm confused where you are getting those numbers from Wandering buddy because the Athletic article which quoted the £100k offered also acknowledged that he was only ever om £40k a week making it indeed a fraction of Fabio wages (half in fact)? Then there's the holding out for £150k a week which unless your his agent I'm not sure how you could possibly know that? Also BTW I'm still yet to read a SINGLE quote attributed to Cunha that disrespects the club or even says he's desperate to leave?! This is the thing everyone's angry with him but I'm yet to see anything other than paper talk?!
As usual, I couldn't agree more TFG buddy. I often think that Jeff can't believe his flipping luck, season after season he pees on the leg of the supporters and season after season just tells them it's raining! What's amazing is that a decent chunk of um seem to KEEP believing it, despite the league position, financial position and leaving talent definetively and consistently proving otherwise! I wonder if they would have still been saying this had we indeed been relegated this season? Instead they just keep blaming the players, whilst never seeming to question why it's the ambitious players that leave and the average players that don't seem to want to?! Give it a few months/a season and I'm sure it'll all be RANs fault, how dare he want to play for a club with ambition, good ridence we don't want quality/ambitious players anyway! It's like being stuck in a bad dream sometimes! ??
29.) 20 May 2025 20:01:03
Wandering I have seen the rumour that he was offered £100k but also articles saying the offer was £60k.
Clearly only Adama and the club really know.
Additionally I have seen the £48k figure you quoted for his wage but also a £40k figure and indeed a £55k figure.
However you cut it though that is a fraction - only just over or indeed exactly 1/2 - of what Fabio was supposedly earning some £80k+
Given the relative contributions they were making you can see why he was far from happy.
It is your opinion that Jeff was wise to allow him to leave for free. Perhaps by the end there was no choice and to be fair his game had fairly significantly deteriorated - although playing in a team without a credible cf when you are an out and out winger will do that for you - by then anyway.
But at the time Fabio arrived and upset the apple cart he was one of the stars not just of the Wolves team but the Prem league.
Failing to keep him happy on and off the pitch meant that sadly we lost out on a superstar. However you are correct (and maybe Jeff takes comfort from this ) that he has failed to recover that level of magic since and Fulham are indeed only paying him the circa £65k you mention, albeit with the signing on fee to bolster his wage.
30.) 20 May 2025 21:03:53
But by the same token, I've seen reports that Fabio earns £80k per week but others saying it's £37k per week. For instance, Capology and Sports Salary say £37k to £42k per week whereas Sportrac and Aiscore quote £80k per week.
Just depends which one you believe.
13 May 2025 23:14:57
Is anyone else bored of the Matheus Cunha saga?
He obviously doesn't want to be here. In an ideal world, he signs for Man Utd by the end of this week and Spurs beat them in the Europa League final meaning he will have left us for a team finishing lower than us and having no European football to look forward to.
The sooner he goes the better as this will allow VP to get the replacements lined up.
1.) 14 May 2025 06:16:33
Totally agree. Good player (for us anyway) and I'll be glad now when he's gone. He's just becoming a distraction and we need to focus and build a team around those who want to stay and we do have some fantastic players. I'm not saying Cuhna won't go to MUFC, but I was reading that Delap was their No1 target. Maybe they're going for both, but they'll have to offload quite a few players to avoid PSR or am I being naive and like City they'll avoid any penalties.
2.) 14 May 2025 07:57:14
He didn’t contribute, apart from giving a way the penalty, last few games has been in and out, when he wants to play no doubt he is fantastic. Shame it has come to this, however, if he wants to leave, I agree just go, read somewhere that the price is increasing hope this is the case, more funds for additions. Still not convinced by Munetsi, runs around and tries but that about it last few games. At times seems like we are playing with no forwards especially against BHA, Larsen should be fit by Tuesday.
3.) 14 May 2025 11:28:22
Munetsi is great in my opinion. Gives his all and wants to be here and his game is to make space for Larsen and that’s why he was on a hot streak when Cunha was out. Vitor has sang his praises. He might not be the most gifted and flashy player but that’s not a bad thing.
4.) 14 May 2025 12:10:39
I wondered about munetsi originally, but now I can see he's a nuisance to the opposition which opens the line, bellegarde gonms and gomez RAN all can get through, just wish they shoot sometimes rather than play round.
Agree re Cunha, get it over and forget about him in these last two games. ok, we're grateful to him he's also cost us games with his petulance. He's wanting out so out he can go now.
5.) 14 May 2025 16:30:15
Imagine you are a prem defender. Who would you least prefer facing :- Hwang Guedes Sarabia or Munetsi?
For me Munetsi is a nuisance and a unit, easily able to shift a defender and often occupying 2. No coincidence we haven't scored in our last 2 games. With him and Larsen up front it opens defences allowing them and others to score. In my opinion we are a better team without Cunha even though he's our best player.
Until we can sign someone better, Munetsi is a starter, VP loves him too and he can only get better in an unfamiliar role.
6.) 14 May 2025 16:41:42
I will be happy to see Larsen back, hope Munetsi looks better then, I agree with the above, difficult to have a go at any player when the effort is there. Maybe I am being harsh on Munetsi, against BHA all 3 in forward positions looked poor in my opinion. Hope both Munetsi and Larsen score against Palace. Wonder how they will be after the final, guess it depends on the result, either way hope it is a tough game and they tired out, would love us to finish season with 2 wins. Do people want City or Palace to win the final?
7.) 14 May 2025 17:21:35
If Cunha does go to Man Utd how many think he may struggle, initially at least? Before coming to Wolves his stats were decent but not outstanding and for his first season with us he carried that on, imo. I never expected him to be a prolific goal scorer.
I won't call Man U toxic but will say austere, demanding as they struggle to get anywhere near to their past glories. Will Cunha be able to cope with that pressure or will he need a 'friendly' club in which to shine?
8.) 14 May 2025 19:03:13
Man U does seem toxic at the moment. To me Cunha seems to need someone to put their arm around him, will be interesting to see how he copes there. Maybe he is having second thoughts, who knows what will happen at Man U, will the manager still be there next season. Surely there are better options for Cunha, if you believe all the talk it is definitely Man Utd, deal done.
9.) 14 May 2025 19:36:46
Man utd havnt got the 'star' players they used to have and cunha will have a weight on his shoulders if he joins. He'll have to perform non-stop, none of the wandering he sometimes does here where he's the 'man', he won't get away with it in front of the old Trafford faithful. He may be wealther in the pocket but weaker in his ego.
Going back to the FA cup Banksy, I hope its a truly exciting game with Palace coming out on top. Footballs screaming for a fresh name to mix things up, the usual lot have bought their way too often at the expense of us so called smaller clubs.
Looking at the table things are changing and that maybe another reason a cunha move to united might leave him regretting leaving the adoring mol crowd and desire.
10.) 14 May 2025 20:48:20
I agree Abbeywolf I would prefer Palace to win.
Hope it is a good game and Palace win 3-2, only worry then is that they are on a high to play us. Nice for a different club to win something.
11.) 15 May 2025 08:42:11
They'll still have hangovers Banksy!
12.) 15 May 2025 09:29:12
Good point hope so ??
10 May 2025 18:36:44
Today highlighted a few things to me.
1: Munetsi is more effective when he plays alongside Strand Larsen. The last 2 games, he has started with Cunha and in both, he didn't look good enough.
2: Cunha tried his best but was well short. If he stays, then he needs a supply line and willing runner near him, such as the role Bellegarde plays. Bellegarde didn't start today and Cunhas performance dipped.
3: Many on here say Guedes isn't good enough, however I noticed that he spent most of his time on the right side of the pitch. He needs to be more central as when he runs at the CBs, he generally causes panic.
4: Andre had an off day. Yes he made some great tackles but this was usually to retrieve a ball that he had given away in the 1st place.
5: AIT, as good as he is with the ball, his decision making isn't the best. If VP can improve this side of his game, we will have a superstar on our hands.
It was an all round off day today. Hopefully VP will improve the squad over the summer and we'll kick on.
1.) 10 May 2025 18:50:12
Don't think Munetsi has looked good enough whoever he's playing with, Wandering and if that's Cunha trying his best then I was watching a different game.To my eyes he was just going through the motions and I imagine that's one reason he was hauled off.
2.) 10 May 2025 19:24:46
Very true. Cunha was trying his best to pull the strings but it just wasn't happening and you could see by his body language that he was frustrated and he deservedly was taken off.
06 May 2025 08:47:09
I see Man Utd have set Garnachos price at £65m. If that's the case, then if we can, we need a bidding war for Cunha to get his true worth of at least £90m
1.) 06 May 2025 09:47:35
They can set that price because they're Man u wandering, who'd be buying him for that money if he played for us? That's half the reason Cunha will go cut price, the other being that we agreed the release fee!
2.) 06 May 2025 10:28:31
They can set the price as high as they like Abbey, he's only worth it if someone pays that much! Which considering this has been ongoing for a few windows now suggests that they won't! It's hilarious when you consider that they sold Elanga for just £15m and he's three times the player Gaurnacho is ?
3.) 06 May 2025 11:03:43
Yes, but there's still no guarantee he'll go to Man utd. If someone else comes in with a higher price or better terms then I would hope it's in Wolves best interests to sell to the highest bidder. I always thought that Garnachos was one of their better players considering RA states everyone wants to play for Man U. I just hope we finish above them and they don't get in the champions league.
4.) 06 May 2025 14:03:28
The player has to want to go to the team which is the highest bidder.
5.) 06 May 2025 15:03:55
WO,
What a great contract. No point having a bidding war then!
6.) 07 May 2025 12:36:44
Any money above 62.5 million goes into the pocket of Cunha.
7.) 07 May 2025 15:23:15
No it doesn't Bilston, if it's a transfer fee why would it go in Cunhas pocket exactly?! I think the real problem is that with such a low release fee not many clubs would feel the need to go above it!
8.) 08 May 2025 12:55:55
Sorry bullys I think what I meant was that wolves will only get 62.5 million but if a club values him higher and want to fend off rivals then salary and signing on fees could be amazing for Cunha because that club would value him higher than the fixed transfer fee.
9.) 08 May 2025 14:59:21
Oh I agree with you there buddy, as I said with such a low release fee I expect there to be a bit of a rush. Which as you rightly say only works in Cunhas (financial) favour! ?
10.) 08 May 2025 19:23:52
Thanks Bully. Oh and I thought of performance related pay and tax efficient pension contributions. It is why release fees were invented. The transfer of some money from the club's to the people who earned it through performances.
26 Apr 2025 18:23:28
BullysBoy,
I owe you an apology.
When GON was manager, I said that Potter would have improved the team and results but you insisted that he wasn't as good as all the hype and we should stay well clear.
You were 100% right. Had Potter taken over, we would now be preparing for life in the Championship.
Luckily Hobbs and Shi had done their due diligence and unearthed Vitor.
COYW
1.) 26 Apr 2025 19:10:30
Not only you WS. Of the candidates mentioned he was my favourite too. Thankfully he turned us down.
2.) 26 Apr 2025 19:37:07
Haha, no bother buddy. I actually quite like Potter (as a person) but I really do think he's been somewhat found out! The WHU fans must be fuming, I honestly think Lope would have come good but now they just look a LOT worse! Funny how things turn out, cause in fairness to you I also thought that WHU had done great business between transfers and Lope, so it turns out we were both wrong eh!
Least we can both agree that the club's done well to get VP, I did actually say it at the time (got one call right then:) still amazed we even got him with where we were in the league! Onwards and upwards buddy! COYW ??
3.) 26 Apr 2025 19:56:06
Let's hope that he gets backing in the summer and we can hold the nucleus of the squad and add the necessary players to enhance the side.
Wandering Star's rumour replies
13 May 2025 17:55:35
His new agents represent Jack Grealish, Omar Marmoush, Oscar Bobb and Kalvin Phillips who all play for Man City as well as Morgan Gibbs White who has recently been linked with Man City. This means AIT is 100% nailed on to move to Man City as the media think that CAA only deal with them.
Lazy journalism.
08 May 2025 15:58:26
A swap? No. It'd have to be Elliot and at least £15m as there is no way that a fringe player at Liverpool who has played a grand total of 258 minutes and contributed to a singular goal (assist), is the same value as a full International player who has played 2882 minutes, scored 4 and assisted 7.
29 Apr 2025 15:27:31
It was confirmed yesterday that this rumour was false.
28 Apr 2025 13:34:06
Or we could give Pedro Lima a chance.
21 Apr 2025 19:22:01
Apparently there is a 10% sell on fee on any profit.
Wandering Star's banter replies
23 May 2025 20:17:47
I've said for the last month, sell Cunha for the release fee and buy Yuri Alberto and Mohamed Amoura for £55m combined. We'd have ready made replacement for Cunha as well as strengthening the squad. Plus we'd have £7m change.
If Doyle goes, the McAtee would be a good replacement, but would he want you come if he isn't guaranteed playing time?
Don't know too much about Evertton Ajauro other than he's a midfielder. Again, would he come if he's not going to play?
22 May 2025 20:54:26
Give us some examples please Ron Moore.
22 May 2025 19:21:03
I give up. Let's just draw a line under the Jeff Shi argument. It's getting repetitive and boring.
22 May 2025 17:05:57
When we won 6 on the bounce, everyone was happy and all was rosy in the garden. We lose 3 meaningless games and suddenly Jeff Shi needs to be hung, drawn and quartered.
22 May 2025 16:53:01
Bullysboy. Remember what Everton, Villa and Chelsea did last season. They traded players amongst themselves to circumnavigate the PSR rules.
Like you say, everything is Jeff Shi's fault. I guess I'm a glass half full kind of person. I fully acknowledge that he's made mistakes but whilst he's the custodian of the club and we're in the Premier League, I'll remain optimistic.