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10 Nov 2025 23:30:22
Ed033, i sent a rating post for the Wolves v Chelsea game twice since Sunday - still not seen it?
Is it in the works or should I send it again?
{Ed033's Note - Thanks for the reminder, i was updating the articles site. Your article is posted now, thanks.
11 Nov 2025 00:31:32
Thefutureisoldgold1 has written an article entitled, Wolverhampton Wanderers Player Ratings v Chelsea
1.) 11 Nov 2025 05:04:49
Good article future, your spot on about some of the players and the doing well in the championship but your right about wages etc, a lot of these players will be in good money and our budget in the championship just will not allow them to stay.
2.) 11 Nov 2025 07:22:57
Spot on about Santi, Future and I agree generally with your comments apart from Joao Gomes. Although he did a few good things, he was tasked with playing out of position on the left side of midfield and this clearly impacted his game. So it's a 5 from me!
30 Oct 2025 10:33:50
Thefutureisoldgold1 has written an article entitled, Wolverhampton Wanderers Player Ratings v Chelsea
1.) 30 Oct 2025 11:59:41
Hard to know to make of the match after that awful first half, but the second half was a moral victory. 3 goals against 1 conceded in the second half against a Chelsea side with Cucurella, Fernandez, Neto on for a good chunk of that half, and Caicedo at the end. Just add up what those guys cost Chelsea: enough to take over Wolves, lock stock and barrel. This belated fight back just confirms that we can do it, but VP can't motivate us sufficiently. He is surely on borrowed time. Brendan Rodgers should be installed without delay, as VP has lost the dressing room and lost the fans.
2.) 30 Oct 2025 12:03:01
Can't argue with most of those ratings future, and to think that for ages there was a widespread view that Johnstone isn't an upgrade on Sa! Score one or two but miss lots is what we're going to get with Tolu I'm afraid as I recall that the stats showed that when we bought him.
At least he puts himself about and gets in scoring positions. Krejci should be playing in midfield for the time being, I think, because he does have an element of creativity that's missing in virtually everyone else.
3.) 30 Oct 2025 12:49:22
The problem being Deep that history only remembers the result not the performance. I've reluctantly come to the conclusion that a change is needed, almost a quarter into the season now with just 2 points.
Probably like most I'm just waiting for that first win that may be a turning point or at least an indication that things are changing but it's not happening consistently enough.
4.) 30 Oct 2025 13:12:08
Yea please stop going on about we scored 3 we were poor again and lost again I didn't know the answer to our current situation I think we might have to lose vp. Is dmw and tolu now our top scorer?, lol.
5.) 30 Oct 2025 14:22:32
Rogers, Deep? No thanks from me.
20 Oct 2025 13:51:50
I have posted less over the past few weeks as I have been trying to limit my negative posting and focus on more positive matters. Sadly there is very little to be positive about
I have previously said that Vitor should already be gone as he clearly isn't getting the best out of the squad available to him - which despite what Wandering and indeed he himself has said, (he wants to keep his job so he will say whatever the boss asks him to!), I don't for one minute believe it is what he wanted to be working with when the season started - but to be fair to him it is an awful squad.
Not only did Wolves sell its best 2 players but it seems it has also lost another 3 of the best 7 - Semedo to free agency and JSL and Emmanuel to Lemina like falls off of a cliff form drop offs.
Also, although Wolves bought a number of cheap players, (£100m for 6 players is cheap in Prem terms - there were a few players bought by other teams who appear to be excellent signings at those modest prices, but only a few, explaining why it was such a high risk strategy), only Krejci, (unsurprisingly the most expensive of the players acquired!), currently looks like a top half of the Prem quality player.
Consequently at both ends of the pitch and particularly going forwards there is just so little quality.
So the only positive I can find is that Wolves fans on here and other sites are now largely united in acknowledging the situation.
I was virtually a lone voice questioning the direction of travel post Seville being castigated for criticising for example the signings of Fabio, Trincao and Guedes.
However over the years more and more posters - aided by the, (to me at least), undeniable evidence of the increasingly poor results on the pitch and in the accounts - started to see the problem.
Amazingly though even this summer on this site I was still being challenged over my criticism of Jeff and his management of the club on and off the pitch!
Now it seems even the most fervent of Jeff's supporters have realised that he isn't running the club to benefit the club. Either because he is grossly incompetent or more likely he is running the club with a different agenda.
So where is the future - sadly it isn't old gold?
Is it possible to survive in the Prem or indeed even as a club?
Obviously yes to the latter, (although it's not a given!), but even the former is still possible!
Vitor has to go now - who on earth replaces him I don't know.
Whoever it is has to find some way of getting Emmanuel and JSL firing - maybe promise JSL he can leave next summer? They have to tighten up the defence and hope that enough results can be ground out that it is not all over by Jan when Fosun have to decide if they double down or quit?
There is simply no creativity, goal scoring or basic quality in the forward line. To change that will be very hard . Finding players of sufficient quality willing to join Wolves will be extremely difficult and expensive.
My view is that Fosun won't. They will accept relegation and hope that they can strip out whatever value there is left in the squad - maybe only Andre, Gomes and Krejci - and then hope that they can find a fool/fan willing to take on the carcass that will remain.
This is sadly going to be very ugly indeed and may take a long time to recover from.
Given my age I suspect I should enjoy the remainder of the season as I may well never see Wolves in the Prem again.
Tks Jeff!
1.) 20 Oct 2025 17:14:19
Jeff and VP have through their individual incompetences have destroyed this club.
2.) 20 Oct 2025 18:15:24
future. A very true summation of the situation, the sort of statement that whilst not being what you want to read you have to accept it. I have stopped posting for pretty much the same reason, the appalling recruitment of the summer caused to stop bothering to post because the results we've had were inevitable. All I can say to Jeff is go now you've done appalling damage to our club and enough is enough. To Fosun put up or clear off and let someone else have a go before it's too late! Vitor it's time for you to go, thanks for last season but you're simply not up to the task I'm afraid.
COYW
3.) 20 Oct 2025 18:22:31
Well I can't see any new investments or owners prior to the winter transfer window, I can't see who we bring in to replace VP, so sadly I'm inclined to agree that we could fall through one or more divisions again.
Unless something changes in the next few weeks it doesn't look promising.
At some point in the future the club will probably offer the prospects of good value to a new owner prepared to take a chance (similar to Wagner and Brady at Blues). It may however be more difficult to get rid of Fosun than we think.
22 Sep 2025 10:06:15
Been away on holidays and off line for two weeks.
Since I last looked, 4 significant things seem to have happened
1 good, 1 not surprising, 1 bad and 1 insanely surprising.
JSL signed a new contract without a release clause
Wolves lost away at Newcastle .
Wolves lost, seemingly quite badly, at home to Leeds. The 2nd of the 8 must win games I identified in an earlier post "the road to survival" both lost at home!
Wolves gave Vitor a new contract!
As Wolves have picked up 1 point from the last 9 league games in normal circumstances he would be on very very thin ice and in my view should actually be gone now! However sacking him either this week or even over the next few weeks will both be highly embarrassing and very expensive!
What is going on?
I can totally understand why Vitor signed a new contract as he was, (in the rational world), just about to be sacked and a new contract hugely increases the pay off he will receive. However, why did Jeff offer him a new contract as, even as a non football man, he knows he is likely to have to sack him soon - lesson learnt from not sacking GON soon enough?
Was he frightened that Vitor would walk and no one credible would take the job?
To be honest I have no idea - but is Jeff really this stupid?
However the far far more relevant question is why is the club in this mess?
The short answer for anyone with the wit and willingness to see is that this has been coming since Seville.
Phil, (an ex-poster for those that don't know him), used to ask me if Wolves would go down this season and I would reply no not this year but its coming. Now I am not so certain that the club has done enough to avoid the drop this year.
But specifically this year?
I tend to agree with Wandering and say that to a large extent it sits with Vitor
Yes Wolves had yet another abysmal transfer window - selling high quality and experienced players and buying, for not insignificant sums, 6 largely younger players with no Prem experience. (Incredibly Wolfe already appears written off - 3rd choice LWB now? - and only Krejci is seemingly currently playing at the levels required.)
Also to be fair to Vitor I question if this really is his side?
I know I have read that he has said he is "happy" but given he was being given a new contract to quote Mandy Rice Davies "he would say that wouldn't he?"
We certainly know he wanted Krejci as he was on the "list" but if he is happy with the rest of this squad he is even more damned than I had thought. I suspect that he wouldn't have wanted to lose the quality players he did and we know he wanted to buy "better" players, including some of those on his "list". He can however only operate within the restrictions of the market - prices Wolves will pay, wages Wolves will pay and even more relevantly players willing to come to Wolves.
But it is far worse than this. The squad is awful but nothing like this bad. Vitor seemingly has lost if not the entire dressing room at least elements of it - Andre, now one of the 2 best players is clearly out of sorts and the body language of several others including seemingly JSL is apparently poor.
Selections, tactics, fitness and morale all are poor according to numerous pundits and social media posters.
Like Emmanuel's form in the second half of last year was that brief flurry of results against the bottom 6 last season the high point of Vitor's reign?
1.) 22 Sep 2025 10:47:39
As I said in my previous post TFIOG it's a multi layered mess no doubt and sadly it won't get any better whether we survive relegation this season or not.
For Shi and VP to both claim he got the players he wanted is pure PR nothing more, nothing less. The Club is on it's knees now thanks to the owners lack of investment and Shi's incompetence controlling the way whatever money they do have, is spent.
Everyone is trying to work under continually deteriorating circumstances, it makes no sense.
2.) 22 Sep 2025 11:20:36
Unfortunately my friends Jeff is guilty of the old doing the same things over again and expecting a different result. As they say good luck with that one!
Obviously I do hope we get a different result but I am not going to hold my breath.
COYW
3.) 22 Sep 2025 11:32:14
Clearly something is amiss, what? I don't know. Is Jeff really stupid enough to give VP a new contract knowing he will need to fire him before Christmas, I don't know and without knowing the details its hard to say, but yes it may be difficult to replace the manager this time.
4.) 22 Sep 2025 12:29:19
I have started to question as well if VP has lost the players as Future mentions. Krejci I think looks a good player, Lopez has potential, the rest of the new signings, to be kind, need more time to settle. Arias and Wolfe not looking likely to ever be good replacements for Cunha and RAN.
I do still think we are a better team than the way we are performing, maybe this poor form is due to the players not being happy, whether this is down to VP or the actions of Jeff and Co, something is not right.
Will we beat Everton, Spurs or Brighton?
Best chance seems to be Everton if they play a weakened side, real possibility we lose the next 3 unfortunately, then what?
5.) 22 Sep 2025 14:50:50
They always say the first sig of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, well step forward Jeff Shi who is the ultimate proof of this statement.
As stated no one with credibility will want to touch us with a barge pole. If people think Nuno would come back when the problem is still here (Jeff again) then think again, would you go back to a company you had a fall out with the boss I think not.
When the same story is being peddled out by 4 previous managers then the issue is still there (Jeff again).
On Fosun they may look at it different and think they bought it for £50 odd million and now worth £350 million so in theory he's done his job.
I don't know how it will turn out but unless something changes quickly we will go down. It will be worse in December when at least 5 players leave to the Afcon.
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12 Nov 2025 14:15:52
De Wolf not sure if you either watched the Chelsea game or read my review but it was clear, despite playing on a side that was well beaten, that he was the best player on the pitch.
This is a Chelsea side that contains 2 central mids who cost over £100m each.
It is therefore no surprise that he will attract interest from the Sky 6 teams.
BB I obviously agree I put a figure of £40m on Gomes - a player who if he was playing for a proper club would not leave for anything less than 9 figures!
06 Nov 2025 15:59:07
Madman - you do see it differently to me.
However I'm not sure what you see and where you see it?
For example it is widely acknowledged that Wolves spent nothing like £166m this summer and commercial revenues according to the audited accounts are under £27m not the £270m to £350m you quote.
But again if your numbers were correct - which they aren't - how do you explain where the money goes.
If Wolves generated such vast sums why are they so heavily in debt and why other than "magic" do they lose so much money?
Also arguing that Wolves failed to buy good players is not really a very strong argument is it?
Mine may be a doomsday scenario but it is rational and based upon facts your thesis is not complex but merely that of a fan, like several other on here desperate to be loyal to Jeff but without any basis in truth - why?
05 Nov 2025 17:32:20
Madman - undoubtedly a doomsday scenario but what is your version?
Do you honestly think Wolves have got to this position - losing £80m pa, (pre player sales), more than Brentford, whilst plummeting down the table - with Jeff trying his best to run the club for the benefit of the club?
I agree that he is incompetent but surely no one can be this bad.
If so can you answer where the money goes/has gone - Wolves have a cost base of over £250m and debt of well over £300m.
It has not been on player transfers as net transfer figures over the past few years are negligible nor on the stadium?
Neither is it on player wages as the player wage bill is widely reported as very modest compared to the total cost base?
Going forwards though if Wolves are relegated and if Jeff is as incompetent as you believe how on earth does he square off income off well under £100m - including a parachute payment the club may not still have as it has been mortgaged, along with the lease on the stadium - and a cost base of over £250m of which over £180m is cash.
Not sure I followed the first part of your argument are you saying the players bought were top quality - evidence v v thin - or that the players they didn't sign but allegedly tried to were top quality players?
My thesis is that Fosun - due to covid - needed to raise cash and Wolves were the milch cow chosen
Thus Jeff is not trying to do his best for Wolves but his best for Fosun - a very different thing.
Sadly however which ever way you look at it he has done a terrible job for everyone because he is incompetent.
The only positive is that if this is the case Jeff might be able to reduce the cost base once Wolves are relegated if Fosun accepts the well has run dry but even then it is surely going to be v hard in the short term to service all of the capital and operating obligations without the wholesale disposal of the squad?
In the medium term the players left are unlikely to survive in the championship potentially leading to a vicious spiralling down similar to the one previously suffered by the club in the early 80s.
Survival this season is therefore essential to the medium term rebuild of the club but unlike you I think the road to survival from where they are today is very very tight indeed!
Sorry.
05 Nov 2025 09:49:40
I bet they would!
I would love someone to pay me £350m for my house!
Personally my view is that it is currently worth far far less than £350m already. ( See post comparing Wolves value with Brentford that recently sold a stake valuing it at £400m).
Also sadly for Fosun if Wolves get relegated the value will drop dramatically.
Additionally it is also quite possible that over the next year or so Wolves will go into administration and therefore would be available for whatever it can be sold for - not much more than zero!
It would therefore not surprise me to see Fosun continue to extract value as rapidly as they can in full knowledge that there is no buyer coming over the hill to save them.
10 Oct 2025 11:27:30
Looks like a decent prospect.
However he is highly unlikely to hit the ground running.
Still fairly young and playing at a very low level, Liga Pro, the top division in Ecuador is of a similar level to Norwegian or Hungarian football, i.e. massively below even the English Championship!
Thus unless he is a standout/prodigy in this league, and with only 1 senior cap for Ecuador by the age of 22 he doesn't sound like one, he should, as you say Molineux, be v cheap. However he probably should only be viewed as a prospect/one for the future/squad player and is highly unlikely to be the first 11 starter in the creative midfield/10 role the team needed in August let alone this January.
All in all no worries re taking this player - although of course it means someone has to go out due to NHG limits - but I would be surprised if he is seen as the missing piece that so obviously exists in the first 11
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17 Nov 2025 22:35:11
Last week I posted that I thought Wolves would only raise £40m for J Gomes because I feared that they were grossly incompetent in the transfer market.
I have just read an article, presumably along the lines of the one that prompted this thread, that stated that Man U will come for him at, to quote "only £44m" as Brighton are pricing their player at over £100m.
Having seen him out play the 2 £100m transfer fee Chelsea CMs for the second time in 3 years last week - the other being the amazing 4-2 win with Lemina! - it is mind boggling that the incompetence is seemingly as real as I feared.
Not only do you have to ask the question of why Wolves sell players so far below where similar or even inferior players are sold by other clubs but more worryingly though what does this mean for the liquidation value of the squad.
If the best player only goes for £40m + what does it say for the rest. Surely many of the far far weaker players - on high salaries and long contracts will have to be paid to go.
Indeed other than Andre are there any players in the squad that will raise over £20m (Sorry JSL's value has fallen somewhat since the Newcastle bid!).
Given that the parachute payment has already been Mortgaged if the sales of the squad only raises pennies net of money that has to be paid to get the high salary but poor players off the books it does leave the finances looking incredibly stretched if the team is relegated at the end of this season.
15 Nov 2025 10:36:52
Derry - completely agree re stability but sadly fear that is highly unlikely given the state of the finances that will almost certainly mean major upheaval again this summer, (if not in January), regardless of which division the club finds itself in.
Deep - far from certain the Luton squad was much worse. Obviously they didn't have a J Gomes or Andre but I doubt they had such a tail of totally inadequate and inexperienced/unsuited to the English game, players.
Also who is telling Jeff anything? One can only assume that Fosun have been happy with what he has achieved over the past few years - which obviously has, (other than to a few on here), been far from satisfactory from the team/club's perspective.
From Rob's point of view it is now or never. The next 4 although not as easy as some of the games already lost are some of the easiest left and points have to be obtained. 8+ is surely the target and even that will still leave the club cast adrift with horrible fixtures to come until the new year dawns.
12 Nov 2025 14:27:39
Best side - based on games for Wolves hence no Vitinha.
Patricio
Otto
Boly
Coady
Saiss
RAN
Neves
Moutinho
Cunha
Jimenez
Neto
Subs Sa, Doherty, Semedo, Dawson, J Gomes, Jota, Traore
Basically the Nuno team with a couple of additions.
Only J Gomes and a goalie (because Wolves have only had 3 in the Prem period), from the current squad even make the bench. Andre unlucky as CM is such a strong position for Wolves.
08 Nov 2025 10:53:27
I have a ticket for tonight so will put a report/ratings on here on Sunday.
Fingers crossed but to be honest fearful!
07 Nov 2025 23:31:22
Tks Skrekken.
I have had a look and the info is somewhat patchy with a figure as you said for income, (but none for costs), and a number for an investment.
The conclusion reached by the report I read seems to be that e sports makes no money whatsoever - which would seem to fit with the Wolves FC accounts .
However as this thread commented Wolves are investing in the activity fairly heavily i.e.
it is sucking cash out of the club.
Maybe at some distant date in the future it will make sense but right now it is an irrelevant distraction that obviously is more of interest to Jeff than the real game and the real business.
He clearly is not just incompetent but a fool as well!
Fiddling whilst Rome burns!