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01 Feb 2026 13:50:51
JSL to Palace £43 million.
Wolves make a low ball offer to Soton for Adam Armstrong.
1.) 01 Feb 2026 15:13:08
Adam Armstrong, (same as Che Adam), looks on the face of it like he would be a very sensible signing.
From his record it looks like he is not quite good enough for Prem but is very good in the Championship.
If the fee is £7m it is a good price.
However he is allegedly on £60k per week. - hence I imagine Southampton's willingness to let him go for what seems a modest sum as their parachute payments tail off.
But what sort of contract will Wolves be able to offer?
If he as a 28 year old and in his prime years, not unnaturally, wants to retain if not improve his £60k a week that would seem far more than the club can afford especially if it is over a 3+ year period when the parachute payments will be long gone.
Note ironically if you believe Wolves will be promoted then as shown Armstrong would have to be sold as he is not good enough for Prem.
Thus regardless of if Wolves go up or not Wolves will want to sell him in a year or so and like Southampton will have to take a cut price deal to move him on to someone willing to take on what is basically a non Championship level contract i.e.
£60k + per week.
Who does that - well today obviously a team that is desperate to win the Champ and has short term money i.e. a team with parachute payments?
Sadly though in two years time he will be 30 and may not be too easy to shift.
In conclusion a good signing but Wolves need to be careful to structure any contract offered.
Maybe offer him the money he wants and on a long term contract, 5 years, but with wages linked after the first year to the club's status i.e. unless they go up the wages drop to match the reality of the clubs status.?
or more - perhaps another side with a v shoet term view believing they can be promoted - probably another side with parachute patments?
2.) 01 Feb 2026 15:36:10
So who exactly is signing the players on behalf of Palace?
Matt Hobbs?
Why would JSL move to a club where the manager is leaving at the end of the season?
What if JSL doesn't fit into the next managers plans like Kobbie Mainoo didn't fit Amorim plan.
Strange decision, but based on his performances for us this season, good riddance.
3.) 01 Feb 2026 15:37:02
Apologies clearly the last sentence was part of a draft that should have been deleted.
4.) 01 Feb 2026 15:56:52
I'm sure we put a bid in for him when Southampton got relegated a few seasons ago and he turned us down. That was at the start of our decline. I wonder why he's changed his mind. Probably as TFIOG says, he knows he isn't good enough for the Premier League but one of the better Championship players, plus the rumoured high wages don't harm things.
Fosun have turned us into a laughing stock.
If Angel Gomes does join us, no doubt he'll make the move permanent in the summer and be sold the next day or so for a profit.
5.) 01 Feb 2026 16:07:36
The answer to your question, Good is £££.
6.) 01 Feb 2026 16:31:11
Angel Gomes would also appear to be an excellent signing although once again wages are very high .
Could this however actually be a plan?
Seems hard to envisage with Fosun, (i, e, any plan!), but sign players who are more than capable for the Champ using the excess cash from the disposal program that I detailed a week or so ago to fund the fees and "high" wages in a genuinely serious attempt to gain promotion?
It is clearly logical and rational!
7.) 01 Feb 2026 17:06:55
Adam Armstrong certainly fits that category Future, but Gomes is a recent England international with eyes on a place at the World Cup this summer and then future squads. He will sign, play well until the end of the season and put himself in the shop window. However there is no chance that he starts next season with us as Fosun will sell him for a handsome profit.
If they do as you suggest, then happy days, but given their recent shenanigans, I don't see it.
8.) 01 Feb 2026 17:46:52
Armstrong. Would be a good signing but will require our midfield to change their ways. He was fastest player in Prem when he last played there and likes ball played early and over the back line for him to run onto.
Age is a bit of an issue as he is 29 in mid February.
9.) 01 Feb 2026 18:56:48
Hopefully the JSL saga will conclude as we want with £43m+ coming in.
Armstrong and/or Che Adams, both tried and failed strikers and yet to light up their respective teams, if (and it’s a big if) we muster a strong enough squad to be challenging next year, both will be jettisoned because simply not good enough for the premier league!
Elijah Adebayo known to Rob Edwards would be a far better shout. Yes he’s had a bad knee injury and been out for 12 months, but would be ready for the new season. Younger than Armstrong and Adams, quick with an eye for goal, did extremely well in the final run in Luton’s relegation. Forward line of Fer Lopez - Adebayo - Mateus Mane, should see us close to the top of Championship League
10.) 01 Feb 2026 20:52:46
What's wrong with selling players for a handsome profit, Good? The scenario we are much more used to is offloading players for a big loss. Fabio, Guedes being recent examples which eclipse the odd decent profit made such as for Cunha and hopefully Larsen.
11.) 01 Feb 2026 22:57:24
What's wrong with selling players for a handsome profit you ask? Nothing if said profit is used to maintain or strengthen the squad like Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton do. But our recent history suggests we waste the money.
In recent years we've made huge profits on: Jota, Neves, Nunes, Kilman, Ait Nouri, Neto and Cunha. Have the club used that money wisely? One look at the table and the current squad gives us a very clear answer.
12.) 02 Feb 2026 04:18:22
Indeed Good but that's a different point to the one you seemed to be making. We all know our recruitment ability has taken an absolute nosedive in recent seasons.
13.) 02 Feb 2026 08:38:14
Old Wulf. The point I'm making is this. Wolves have over the last 3 seasons have sold on players for huge profits without reinvesting the money back into the playing squad to bring in players of either the same quality of players sold or potential. The Angel Gomes deal will be no different.
The club will buy him for the reported £7m and sell him almost immediately for double that. They will then purchase 1 inferior player for a fraction of the price and pocket the change.
Let's look at the last transfer window.
We sold Cunha and Ait Nouri for a total of approx £100m and replaced them with Moller Wolfe, Tchatchoua, Arias, Lopez and Tolu for £80m.
Now some might say that bringing in 5 players to replace 2 makes the squad better and stronger but does having 5 mediocre players adequately replace 2 proven performers?
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04 May 2026 19:55:06
First The Points.
Forest are loving life with Vitor.
1.) 04 May 2026 20:42:24
Let's see how he does next season.
2.) 04 May 2026 21:09:39
I'll give it about a 75% chance he won't go more than 22 more matches at Forest. 12 clubs in 15 years, and only at 3 of them has he managed more matches in charge than the 38 that WWFC were generous/naive enough to allow.
3.) 05 May 2026 07:25:19
Let's see if he spends his transfer budget as wisely as he did at Wolves!
4.) 05 May 2026 09:14:01
Since Fosun have owned Wolves, we have had 9 different managers/head coaches.
In the same timeframe, Vitor Perreira has managed 9 different clubs.
5.) 05 May 2026 11:15:44
Yes, Fosun have been pretty poor in some regards when choosing managers. However, in fairness to Vitor, he did manage to outlast the hapless Walter Zenga, who managed about 17 games in charge.
6.) 05 May 2026 11:23:39
In a way, VP and Jeff Shi were made for each other, the perfect storm. VP presumably acquiesced in the most disastrous transfer window in Fosun's reign last summer. Jeff declared himself very satisfied; didn't get every target, but got 90%. That transfer window left us mortally wounded as a club.
What the hell was VP doing, letting that happen? Lopetegui at least walked when he saw the writing on the wall. The wall and the writing were a whole lot bigger last summer, but VP did nothing. Maybe he knew, but was just being cynical in waiting for the inevitable sack and payoff.
7.) 05 May 2026 11:52:19
I think you've pretty much nailed it in that last sentence there, Deep. Cause, do you remember how, at the time when he signed, it was right at the end of the window and we still hadn't won, leading many of us to question why give him a new contract before the first win of the season?! Well, in hindsight, I suspect VP knew exactly what he was doing, having just had a front row seat for the entire circus that was our transfer window.
Peeps can say what they want about the signings, but not a single one of them was VP's first choice; in fact, many of them (both full backs) weren't even in his top three picks! VP saw what a complete mess the squad was in, and ensured, under such circumstances, that he got a decent payday. I don't especially blame him. It's on the club to manage such situations, and good old Jeff was asleep at the wheel, as usual! ?
8.) 05 May 2026 15:01:05
Bully, if VP signed the new contract knowing what a complete mess the club was in, it doesn't say much for his professional standards nor for the numbskull who offered it. VP was obviously looking after Number One when he signed. First the pounds, then the escape route?
07 Feb 2026 15:53:59
As per my post on 05/02 I have left the stadium.
05 Feb 2026 16:58:11
They didn’t want to sell the club but they wanted their money back so they sold any player they could to bring in the cash while retaining control of the club.
If they were to sell the club today how much would it be worth?
The protests must have affected them as they removed Jeff as a token gesture and replaced him with Nathan.
Protests need to be ramped up and if the Chelsea game goes the same way as it did last season this could see the stadium emptying before the final whistle.
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1.) 06 Feb 2026 08:30:06
Makes you wonder what will happen to any parachute money!
23 Jan 2026 13:30:17
Did anyone actually see Jeff leave the building?
Who is instructing/advising Nathan?
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1.) 23 Jan 2026 19:12:43
Why have we not heard from Nathan?
2.) 23 Jan 2026 22:38:42
Well we all know how much Jeff is a fan of sci fi, he told us in one of his car crash interviews so my theory is at the end of the season Nathan will call a press conference then take off a mask and it’s Jeff all along underneath like the old program V ??
09 Jan 2026 16:31:10
Wolves have refused to send Shrewsbury extra tickets for the FA Cup game as the extra revenue wouldn’t cover the operating costs.
Another great PR stunt by the club keeping seats empty and locking paying fans out.
1.) 09 Jan 2026 19:47:55
Can you give more detail, I can’t read the full article but from what I do see it seems like they were offered more initially but took the lower amount. Now have changes their mind but because it’s in the stan cull is not Steve bull the operating cost would outweigh what shrews make.
Seems like the fault of Shrewsbury owners not wolves, at least that’s what the comments I’ve seen say. Interested why you think it’s wolves fault.
2.) 09 Jan 2026 21:34:06
Because it’s Wolves stadium Goatmark1 and the opposition are asking for tickets for the game but we can’t afford to let them in so the seats remain empty?
An odd position for a club that has been in the PL for eight years with all its riches paying players huge salaries but can’t allow fans into the stadium as the cost of doing so is prohibitive.
3.) 09 Jan 2026 23:23:35
But I don’t think that’s the case, it’s not about the cost to us from what I see. If they had taken the higher amount of tickets first of all they would be in the Steve bull stand and so the operation costs would be fine. It’s the fact they wanted less so we put them in the stan cullis then they changed their minds but to add more fans to the stan cullis would affect the profit they take due to the layout and increased operation costs. Incidentally they are also complaining that we priced the tickets at £10 (funnily enough too low) which again means they aren’t taking as much, they even said they make more from a league game.
Btw i'm not trying to cause arguments First just trying to get the facts right to blame the right people, of course I could be reading the situation wrong.
4.) 09 Jan 2026 23:57:49
Ok I might have been wrong about which stand and the reason behind why the operation costs are more but I think it still affects the profit shrews take. Either way it still doesn’t seem it’s our fault to me.
5.) 10 Jan 2026 08:58:20
Havnt seen anything about the ticket allocation to Shrews fans other than they're being housed in the lower steve bull. Shrewsbury had a waiting list for tickets.
Of course the match is also on TV if you've the appropriate subscriptions.
£10 does seem a low price admittedly.
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02 Feb 2026 10:56:29
If Carlsberg did January transfer windows Rated.
Hope the season ticket prices in the championship reflect the fact that we’ve sold millions of pounds worth of international players in previous windows and replaced them with Che Adams.
19 Dec 2025 12:31:15
Mateus Fernandez-Pardo is going to have his work cut out then if the internet rumours are true regarding outgoings.
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11 May 2026 18:47:25
Sixteen points won from 19 games since Nathan took over from Jeff as interim chairman.
05 May 2026 09:14:01
Since Fosun have owned Wolves, we have had 9 different managers/head coaches.
In the same timeframe, Vitor Perreira has managed 9 different clubs.
18 Jan 2026 11:43:31
GWIL I think The Futures point is that while we did have the best time in our recent history under Fosun the cost could be that we may not have a club to support at all if the mis-management continues into the next couple of seasons.
Future is asking if a couple of seasons as best of the rest is worth losing the club for.
15 Jan 2026 17:06:58
Or did Fosun stab Mendes in the back by deviating from their original plans to progress the club into a Champions League team with a world class stadium and forcing out many other staff members who had the same ambitions?
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09 Jan 2026 21:34:06
Because it’s Wolves stadium Goatmark1 and the opposition are asking for tickets for the game but we can’t afford to let them in so the seats remain empty?
An odd position for a club that has been in the PL for eight years with all its riches paying players huge salaries but can’t allow fans into the stadium as the cost of doing so is prohibitive.