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18 Feb 2020 14:22:52
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15 Feb 2020 00:38:48
Wonder why the whole of the ball has to be completely over an actual line for a goal, throw or corner but only a fraction of a player touching a non existent line super imposed on TV screens in a different county is deemed to have committed the “offence” of being offside.

15 Feb 2020 09:13:10
Good point.

15 Feb 2020 16:21:40
I hadn't thought of that.

15 Feb 2020 20:00:11
Excellent thinking Oxymoron. Doubt Mike Riley and co. Will be interested in giving us an explanation though. Us fans who keep the whole industry going with our hard earned cash are ******* nobodies as far as they are concerned!

16 Feb 2020 13:22:16
The answer is the PL have put a total incompetent in charge of our football rules. Let's face it why have they created different rules compared to the rest of the football World? Fact.
Is to hide the total incompetence of our referees? Non on FIFAs list.
Is it to do away with referees altogether so some faceless wonder can dictate to the game?
Or is it a set up to protect the Big 6 from us newly promoted TEAMS? LOOK AT THE STATS WHO HAS LOST OUT AND WHO HAS GAINED. FACT.
He who pays the piper so the saying goes
One very angry paying fan.

16 Feb 2020 14:43:59
I have lots of sympathy with all these comments. It seems typical of the FA to cock up a good idea, to make the game fairer, whereas rugby has succeeded in that aim, and there is clarity in the decision. I like Ron's point. Change the offside rule so the whole of the foot must be offside. no other body part counts. Then let the ref on the pitch decide if he needs assistance and guidance, but he decides from a full screen replay which all can see.

17 Feb 2020 10:26:10
Good point Oxley but the whole of the ball would be difficult to relate to the whole of the heel. That said, I agree with you. Apparently UEFA advised the PL against getting too forensic in offside decisions. My guess is that next season the PL will fall in line with UEFA, but too late for our disallowed goals this season.

The thought of Michael Oliver sitting in some cupboard with screens in front of him, trying to find fault with a Wolves goal is objectionable to all of us.

11 Feb 2020 20:27:24
Linked with a move for Kalvin Phillips of Leeds. On the chance that they don't win promotion this year. All talk of course

Watching him tonight against Brentford tonight. I will be honest we could do a lot worse! Seems to have the lot. Strong aggressive can ping an absolute beauty of a ball.

At the right price I'd rip their arm off. wouldn't say that about many champ players.

12 Feb 2020 07:31:35
Agree, very good player, I'd say long term replacement for moutiniho.

12 Feb 2020 09:44:45
Don't fancy that Leeds winger, whatisname, something Costa?
He will costa-lot for Leeds bank balance! 15 big ones coming into Wolves soon. Imagine what Nuno can do with an extra £15mil? Nuno can create huge value by buying low (Traore, Jota, Jimenez, the list goes on and on) and selling high. Nuno didn't buy Costa, that was Walter.

I have an idea about Kalvin Phillips if Leeds don't get promoted. To save them shelling out for Costa, just do a swop for Phillips.

12 Feb 2020 10:29:31
Correction. Walter Zenga brought Costa in and paid a loan fee I think, with an option to buy. It was under Nuno in the championship that the buy option was invoked, but at that time there was strong PL interest in Costa and we needed to keep him. Unfortunately after his injury he was never the same again. I'm at least right in saying that Nuno didn't bring Costa to Wolves as he was already there.

12 Feb 2020 12:15:21
Am I right in saying Leeds have an obligation to buy Costa?

12 Feb 2020 12:53:20
Toms Tatters, you are right. Leeds must write the cheque at the end of the season. He he. Masterstroke by Nuno.

12 Feb 2020 15:22:12
Tell you what masterclass in the market at the moment. Heard today if Leeds don't get promoted Phillip's has a buyout of 20mil.

So that's Costa and 5 mil. Gew on then!

13 Feb 2020 09:28:02
Costa's loan was made permanent in the January after he joined on loan in the summer. Paul Lambert was our manager at the time.

13 Feb 2020 11:12:41
Greg, thanks. I remember now, it was Lambert. Costa had a great match at Anfield in the cup win against Liverpool. He also scored a superb goal at Cardiff. His form the interested a few PL clubs. It probably was a no-brainer to keep him. Nuno simply inherited him and did the right thing in letting him go to Leeds.

14 Feb 2020 13:12:25
@Deep Throat, definitely! I think every single fan was screaming for Costa to be signed up at the time - the guy was our single best player that year. Sadly, as happens so many times, injuries / manager changes / confidence and all sort of other variable just went against him. Time to move on. He'll be a great player for many more teams I'm sure and wish him the best. I respect that about Nuno, if he doesn't think a player is right, out they go. No time for sentiment or misplaced loyalty.

15 Feb 2020 00:36:22
"Helder's my boy" - Jeff Shi.

11 Feb 2020 18:28:44
Heard from a coach at Wolves that Bennett was let go as there’s genuine excitement about Otasowie and Richards coming through the academy.

Otasowie wanted more chance of first team minutes before signing a new contract.

11 Feb 2020 18:47:22
bennet didn't get on with coadie after there fall out begining of season I would have prefferd bennet to stay and coadie go but if we got gud uns coming through things are looking up!

11 Feb 2020 19:25:43
Bennett and Coady are good mates soni find that hars to believe, Otasowie has been tracked by some of the big clubs in Europe, he is earmarked for a big future, so maybe a bit of truth in that maybe.
I liked Bennett, good character around the team.

11 Feb 2020 19:37:57
Just thinking aloud here - Would Nuno allow or want that kind of attitude from Owen Otasowie? it was because of stuff like that Fergie got rid of Pogba. And he thus far has been proven right by that decision.
Putting my hand out to be slapped here, feel free to correct me.

{Ed001's Note - Fergie never got rid of Pogba, Pogba refused to join Ferguson's son's agency and instead signed with Mino Raiola. That was why Fergie refused to pick him and that was why he left on a free of his own choice.}

11 Feb 2020 21:39:44
To be honest guys I think with Benno its a case of sometimes the obvious answer being the actual answer. As in I think he probs got wind of Lec looking for an experienced CB and saw a good opportunity. Nuno has said that he left cause he wanted to go and not sure I blame him. Seeing a back three of CMF start in front of you can't be easy as an experienced CB! Not saying its on the club cause Nunos the one picking the team and that's that but I think that's why he left.
As for Otasowie the guys a giant and looks technically great to boot and like others I remember him being tracked by some of the big boys. Thing is if the club had wanted to push him forward they could have by now, these last couple of months we've loads of youngsters on that bench and think I've only seen him once. Be good to see more mind, I trust Nuno will know when the times right COYW ;)

11 Feb 2020 22:56:38
Thanks for clearing that up Ed001 (I never knew that even happened)

{Ed001's Note - it happened a lot in that era. Allardyce was another one, he used to do the same at Bolton. You only got a deal if his son was your agent.}

11 Feb 2020 23:49:03
Yeah, also famously why United paid a whopping £8.5m for Bebe, as it said in that fantastic Panorama episode (which I strongly recommend to any that haven't watched it) the signing on fee from Bebes transfer paid for Martin Fergusons house! It was also because of Panorama having the gaul to shine a light on this shameful behaviour that Fergy refused to do Beeb interviews! Its quite incredible and shocking in equal measure what goes on in this sport!

{Ed001's Note - ah Bebe! What a player he was....}

12 Feb 2020 00:11:33
Haha indeed Ed! he was the knew Ronaldo just so long as you'd NEVER seen Ronaldo play! ;-D.

{Ed001's Note - or you got him mixed up with the Brazilian Ronaldo after his retirement and he had piled on loads of weight....}

12 Feb 2020 18:06:09
🤣 I reckon I'd STILL sooner sign the Brazilian Ronaldo, least he new where the goal was! 😭.

{Ed001's Note - can't argue with that as I agree!}

09 Feb 2020 07:46:38
Adama strong interest from Barcelona and Real Madrid. 70-80 Mil

Raul to Man united or Chelsea.

And Ruben always linked with somewhere. Hope it's all rubbish!

These three seem to be the ones to be worried about this summer. I'd love to keep all three. But I would imagine we might loose at least one. The fees would be insane profit. Definitely least like to loose Raul though.

09 Feb 2020 13:58:33
They're going knowhere yet.

09 Feb 2020 14:49:54
Of all of them the Traore one is probably the most realistic given his background, the likely profit, and the like chance of obtaining a suitable replacement.
I would be a shame but that is the way it is these days. No Bully's any longer.

09 Feb 2020 16:34:59
These rumours have been doing the rounds for a while. What no one from the media has suggested is if we finish top 4 or win the Europa League and qualify for CL, why would any of them leave to be bit part players when they could star first us in the CL. Media have this tendency to insist that any player will want to play for the so called bigger teams and have no loyalty to the likes of Wolves.

09 Feb 2020 20:15:19
TBH I'd sell Traore and invest it into other areas. Selling Coutinho did wonders for Liverpool.

09 Feb 2020 22:41:00
I honestly can't see um going to Spain, I think its Citys 'rebuilding' that concerns me. Look at Madrid in Adamas position they currently have Vinicius Junior (who they paid £40m for) and Odegaard both are 21 not to mention Vasquez and all of um already don't get the minutes they need in the first team! As for Barcelona are they REALLY going to pay £70+ for a player they let go for buttons? Whilst ALSO being in the process of writing off a suspected £60m+ on their last Prem import that didn't work out at all (Coutinho)?
For me City are the ones to watch because Pep has had a front row seat as to what Adamas capable of he also lacks the one thing missing in the City team and that's raw speed! Time will tell but we will get interest in Traore cause as others have said there just SO few players in the world that can do what he does! As for Neves well to be honest he needs to find his form again for me, frankly if we had better options I think I would benched him by now! Time will tell but I hope we stand firm if it does happen, no shame in selling everyone does it the important thing would be that it makes us stronger! COYW ;)

09 Feb 2020 22:57:02
Haha obvs that's a typo and I didn't mean Adama LACKS pace rather HAS it (in abundance)! I hope we could have all guessed that's not what I meant ;)

10 Feb 2020 05:13:55
If we qualify for the Champions league, they ain't going anywhere.

10 Feb 2020 10:11:54
Same old, same old. Mostly they are something like Darren Bent saying Jimenez should go to a "top team" like Man U or Chelsea. Don't make me laugh Darren. Then clickbait Birmingham Live reports them, repeatedly, and News Now features them every ten minutes or so.

Another rumour I've read is Jack Grealish house-hunting in Manchester. That's probably a wind up for Villa fans. Why would Grealish be house-hunting now?

10 Feb 2020 16:53:55
It's inevitable that we will be losing some of our big players at some point. It's the price of success. I believe, and i've heard it from someone that I trust and is usually correct, that Neves will move in the summer if we don't get European football next season. Mendez has to do his best for his clients as well as us of course and that's his call. Might be wrong here but it sounds plausible to me. Been here longer than Raul or Traore etc who I doubt will move on just yet.

10 Feb 2020 19:54:44
See Tett I can believe that the club have some sort of agreement with Neves like that because they were quite up front about the fact he was the only player that we knocked back an enquiry for in the summer. I have wondered if that has turned Reubens head a little cause it can't just be me that thinks that for the most of this season he's looked a shadow of his former self?
That said if he really does want a move he needs to get his head down and start findin some big performances! Cause I can't see us letting him go for any less than £40m and right now I'm not sure he'd be worth it!

10 Feb 2020 23:13:45
BullysBoy II - perhaps we’ve been watching a different Ruben Neves? I’ve been watching the one who’s been brilliant this season as evidenced by his MoTM performance at Old Trafford in our last game where he outshone Bruno Fernandes with ease. And as for not selling him for ‘less than £40m’ that is presumably a joke right? Try doubling it and then adding quite a bit more on top and when you get to £100m keep going.

11 Feb 2020 02:23:09
The problem is Das that he does look like a different player to me, from last season anyway. You seem to misunderstand me it's not that I don't think he has quality, he has plenty it's that I don't think he's playing as well as he was. Not nearly in fact, yes he played well agaisnt United but you can't honestly say he's currently hitting the potential we saw previously? The stats show it as well by the way, last season over 40 games he got 5 goals and 5 assists, this season 37 games in and he's on 2 goals and 2 assists. Then compare that to Maddison who is currently on 7 goals and 7 assists! Tell me this Das if you had to pick him or Moutinho to drop which would it be, there's only one answer?! But Moutinho is 32 and still regualarly outshining him and I just don't think that should be the case. Why isn't he taking any set pieces these days? Could it be because Moutinho has a higher success rate? As I've said I don't doubt his ability or potential but he looks to me like a player that's struggling to take the next step and find the consistency required at this level. That might just be that he needs more time or it could in fact be because his heads already been turned. Hopefully that isn't the case and he can find his old form again because you REALLY don't need to tell me how good he CAN be! COYW.

11 Feb 2020 02:24:45
Ps- he outshone a player that had arrived at his club less than a week before, not sure why you'd even compare the performance to Fernandes to be honest?

11 Feb 2020 11:40:22
TBF Neves hasn't been playing in his natural position he is more of an attacking midfielder, he has been played quite deep this season.
At old trafford he was allowed to attack more which is why we saw the Neves we all know and love.

03 Feb 2020 14:31:15
Is Thelwell leaving then?

03 Feb 2020 16:14:08
Of the the MLS, wonder if he was asked to go,?

03 Feb 2020 16:27:41
He's confirmed it.

03 Feb 2020 16:47:34
The haters have got what they wanted now.

03 Feb 2020 17:35:50
If even the bloody-tea lady left people like SQ would seize on it and say Fosun has lost interest!

03 Feb 2020 18:17:15
Jez Moxey to return!

03 Feb 2020 18:54:44
Jas, that reminds me. The Fosun-haters (i. e. Baggie fans) go way back to the beginning on this site. When Moxey resigned after the Fosun takeover, some people said he knew the whole thing would go pear-shaped with Fosun, so he got out.

I'm so enjoying the rise of Wolves.

03 Feb 2020 19:32:25
Deep Throat, agreed. The reason he got out though was that Fosun knew he was limited in his ability. Jeff Shi has taken on the role Thelwell held but surely we must have someone coming in as I'm sure he took on Dalrymple's role too.

03 Feb 2020 20:51:54
Getting rid of the deadwood.

03 Feb 2020 22:25:02
Interestingly if you read Nunos interview after Podence was tied up he suggested we could be in for one more. Well that never happened and I can't help but wonder if inability to get a striker overe then line may have been viewed as a lacking on Thelwells part? Either way personally I've never been massively impressed with him so onwards and upwards I say COYW ;)

04 Feb 2020 00:05:53
Can't understand why some are knocking Thelwell. Look what he's done for the club. Oversaw the Academy, in the process turning them into Catergory A. Oversaw the signings of Patricio, Moutinho, Jimenez, Podence and Traore so all in all not a bad job. Hopefully whoever takes over can take us to the next level.

04 Feb 2020 09:26:29
It wouldn't of been thelwell why these players came here it would of been Nuno and uncle george.

04 Feb 2020 09:52:59
Thelwell has played his role well in taking us up to the level where we are now, i. e. knocking on the door to the top six and progressing in Europe. We've come a long, long way from the Morgan-Moxey days. This is probably the best time to be a Wolves fan since the days of Stan Cullis.

With the talent in the U23 side I can foresee greater things from us. It won't be all about big-name big-money signings, we will keep the strategy we have now. Buy shrewdly, buy young, develop from within.

04 Feb 2020 09:54:36
Really, so why did Patricio, Jimenez etc not join him at Valencia? I accept that Nuno and Mendes play a big part of incoming players but they also have to want to join a club going places. Thanks to Fosuns vision and Thelwells commitment, our ambition was elevated and made more attractive.

04 Feb 2020 10:56:05
If wolves want to compete in the champions League, we are going to have to do better than buy shrewd and young players, we would not be able to compete, we are are good side, but we have to be a great side, we do need a couple of great great players to finish teams off.

04 Feb 2020 11:38:41
To the haters Thelwell was responsible for bringing in Coady, Traore and Dendonker, he was also the one who bought in Jackett which kick started our revolution.
Also he was the one responsible for improving the acadamey, so give it a rest yeah.
Wonder who you'll blame now?

04 Feb 2020 12:54:07
Take your point Tibbsy but all great players were young and promising players once. We will in my opinion, in due course, compete in the CL with the present strategy. We will not go round like headless chickens (Man U comes to mind) spending pots of money on so-called big names like Pogba.

Man U ended up so desperate for a striker last week that they nearly brought Glenn Murray in from Brighton. Call that strategy? Where has all the squad building gone?

The only other team's strategy I admire is Liverpool's. They have sold some very big names to bank profits to get the squad they have now, which includes home grown players. For this reason Liverpool's net spend is a lot lower than you might think.

04 Feb 2020 13:04:11
Guys we can debate which signings were his and which weren't but in truth none of us will ever know. All I would say is that if he is that good why are we letting him go? And more to the point why has no one else been in for him up until now? Last question but why is it that only LA are in for him who are a team playing at a lower than Championship level?

04 Feb 2020 13:53:47
12 years with one Organisation is good achievement in this day and age.
Fosun seems to be a caring employer, but equally constantly looking to raise standards in all Departments.
I am delighted that Thelwell has found a new role and I wish him well.
Onwards and upwards. the Pack continues to strengthen.

04 Feb 2020 15:16:05
In my opinion, Telwell became the new Moxey. Just a pantomime villain.

04 Feb 2020 17:58:14
Ironically I actually agree Debs, in so much as in terms of abuse there always seems a need for a pantomime villain at most clubs (sadly) . Wonder if Jeff is feeling nervous with that in mind!

05 Feb 2020 13:25:54
Sad if Thelwell had become a pantomime villain. With everything we have achieved to get where we are today, surely everyone at Wolves is a hero not a villain?

A more likely pantomime villain is Mike Ashley at Newcastle.

05 Feb 2020 14:34:50
Just the way of the world Deep, there's always a fall guy or a boogy man that fans blame normally when transfers don't come off. United have Woodward, WHU have Sullivan and I'm sure the list goes on! Like Deba said for years it was Moxey, if it went wrong blame Jez! Sad yes but the nature of the business when you are dealing with a mob mentallity, sadly football usually does! 🙄.

05 Feb 2020 16:47:41
Sorry to see Thelwell go, perhaps an issue over only being permitted to sign Mendes clients.

05 Feb 2020 19:41:33
Jonny, Jimenez, Traore, Dendonker, Boly, Vinagre, Loiodice, Jordao and Campana. All signed since Fosun took over, none are clients of Gestifute (Jorge Mendes)

05 Feb 2020 23:05:01
Fair point Jas although the point is still valid, in so much as I wonder how much say he had in ANY of those signings? I'm not saying he didn't (for all I know they could have been his signings) BUT it certainly would make anyone want a new job if they felt their role had become little more than a glorified account organising money rather than sourcing players. If essentially he was given a list by Mendes and told to work from that then I could understand why that would rankle! I'm sure we'll find out in the years to come but the timing of this (after a window) can't be a coincidence! COYW 👍.

05 Feb 2020 23:53:39
Anyone read the article claiming that Thelwell suggested the signings of Dani Olmo and Hwang Hee-Chan only to be over ruled by Nuno who wanted Campana and Podence?

06 Feb 2020 11:49:06
Jas, I read that as well. Thelwell was apparently overruled by Nuno. If true, this is how it should be. Nuno is the ultimate expert in footballing matters at Wolves.

06 Feb 2020 11:51:19
I did not and if honest I always take articles claiming to know inner dealings of any club with a serious pinch of salt (depending on the source;) . It was well documented that we were in for Chan but the move broke down on finance, also we have been tracking Campana since the u20's South American cup. Overruled by Nuno is one thing and frankly would also be the signs of a healthy club (the manager lives and dies on signings so they should have a strong say) . Still it would be an entirely different/ more grating scenario to be overruled by someone that's not even working for the club (cough, Uncle Jorge, cough) ;)

01 Feb 2020 16:39:58
Q. For those that are disappointed with our transfer window business. Imagine yourself picking the team for the first game of next season.
Who are you leaving out, and who are you bringing in?
When you have your answers perhaps you will reassess your thoughts on the window.

02 Feb 2020 10:40:04
I'd drop Patricio, Doherty, Coady, Moutinho, Jota, Jimenez, Saiss and Jonny and bring in Oblak, Alexander Arnold, De Ligt, Dybala, Mbappe, Salah, Van Dijk and Mane. However, prior to doing this, I'd have had a meeting with SQ to confirm that he is happy that Fosun have shown the required ambition and that pushing us to the verge of bankruptcy is the best policy as buying all these big name players means that we wouldn't have enough money to expand the ground. Oh hold on, if we can't expand the ground, it proves that Fosun lack ambition. That SQ is a financial genius. Why isn't he employed by Fosun?

02 Feb 2020 18:51:38
What a joke motd is not one mention of rubens neves performance. all utd. even solksjar went on pitch to congratulate him at final whistle. from now on motd can #### ### .

03 Feb 2020 01:18:26
Were we playing in that match? I suppose we must have been as there had to be a reason Manure were the second from last match. I did however love the analysis of Maguire going one better than Barra but instead of it being a shirt it was Traore's arm.

01 Feb 2020 12:11:30
Gone for 4-3 to Wolves with Doherty as first scorer 2000/ 1.

01 Feb 2020 20:18:04
I went with 0-0 after Full time. lol.

01 Feb 2020 12:06:20
Always good to see something like this from the pundits:

LAWRO'S PREDICTION
I have been impressed by Wolves whenever I have seen them, including their last game, which ended in a narrow defeat by Liverpool.

They have easily given Liverpool their toughest test in any of their league games this season, and I think they will have too much for United.

Prediction: 1-2

Come on lads.

01 Feb 2020 15:23:35
Jez even Lawro is getting on the band wagon! As Morgan's little chum he used to have a habit of talking us down and never predicting a win, times are changing peeps! 👍.

01 Feb 2020 01:39:36
Me personally I think fosun are getting it so ryt recruiting young hungry players I now it can be frustrating hearing a signing for the under 23s but even if two of them can progress and kick on n make the grade the money we can save will be imence fosun r smart business people ie Bennet free transfer hopefully make 5 million if Leicester make the deal permeant in my eyes take that of the money we paid for podence that's 11 millions we paid and I think he's going to be like the new hazard of the prem.

01 Feb 2020 02:10:34
With prodence being bought in, jota or neto can play in Rauls role if need be.
Plus i'm hearing that Campana lad is pretty decent too.

01 Feb 2020 07:59:57
How many minutes total did Cutrone get? Raul played something daft, can't remember the stat. He is a machine.

Striker wise I imagine it's why it may have been a tough sell to most.

Just give Campana a go when rarely needed. Long season obviously and injuries happen in football. Not Naive. got to be worth a punt on the lad. Bigger teams chuck the youngens straight in.

01 Feb 2020 01:33:41
I think personally the kid we had from Rochdale is a great signing next season be around the 1st team n hope dadishov gets abit of game time really like him tbh and proves himself and proves you don't have to spend big all the time.

01 Feb 2020 12:17:59
Always a gamble buying someone on the back of a small number of star performances.

Memories of Freddie Eastwood, star at Southend.
And Nakhi Wells never quite made the big time.

On the other hand, James Madison seems to be doing rather well. Let's hope he's more like that. got to trust Nuno!

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